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Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:44 PM ( #1 )
Hey guys just got home and found the SMKW catalogue in the mailbox.
 
The cover has a Recon Tanto polished blade, with LCT's signature on it. It states they have 600 of these and it is a SMKW exclusive.
 
Just FYI-
 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 1:50 PM ( #2 )
how much?  thats the important question.  guess im heading over to SMKW to check it out.  thanks for the heads up!
 
          
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:07 PM ( #3 )
GREAT FIND BIG JOE!!!

Cold Steel® Lynn C. Thompson Signature Recon Tanto™
$79.99
brand:Cold Steel® CS13RTLTS   This is the first time Lynn C. Thompson has put his signature on a SMKW Exclusive! Add this special edition Cold Steel® knife to your collection before they're gone forever!
·AUS-8A stainless steel blade
·Exclusive Lynn C. Thompson signature imprint
·Black Kraton® handle
·Lanyard hole
·11-3/4" overall
·Black Kydex® sheath with multiple carry options
·SMKW Exclusive

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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:18 PM ( #4 )
well,
FSS beat me to it and with a picture no less.
 
 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 2:21 PM ( #5 )
looks really cool...  i know my fiance will have my head if i order one though...  got... to... resist... temptation!  
 
          
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:49 PM ( #6 )
They describe it as a signature imprint which would be interesting. Laser engraved perhaps? 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:11 PM ( #7 )
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They describe it as a signature imprint which would be interesting. Laser engraved perhaps? 

And What is Really Strange is that it is listed $10 Cheaper than the Black Model with out LCT signature!

What's Up with that Deal??  But who really cares! It's a deal to jump on!  LCT is Paying US to give his signature! Cool!

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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:17 PM ( #8 )
A limited edition collectible, cheaper that the "normal" run looks promising. I wonder if they are numbered?
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:38 PM ( #9 )
i will go for one of these for sure. hope they dont sell out before i order one though...
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:10 PM ( #10 )
The most likely reason it is $10.00 cheaper is they bough 600 of them from CS and are able to make a great offer on it.
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:21 AM ( #11 )
I just ordered one. You can get them for $74.73 (that includes shipping) if you use the coupon code YEAREND9. Thanks for the heads up, BigJoe!! 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:18 AM ( #12 )
I got the SMKW catalog today also. Can't really use this one though unless it were to have some hardware. Leaves more for everyone else though.
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Sunday, January 24, 2010 1:52 AM ( #13 )
Sorry it took so long to post these. I got it in the mail a while ago, and it slipped my mind. The signature is laser etched, and they are numbered. It's kinda hard to make out due to the poor photos, but I got #163. The box is just a plain Recon Tanto Box... I have one of the Carbon V Recon Tantos from the Christmas flyer, but it came in a blisterpack (that I don't want to open), so this is the first Recon Tanto that I've actually put my hands on... It's impressive... Oh well, now it's time to put it back in the box, and back on the shelf... Next time I buy a Recon Tanto.... I'm USING it! Once again, thanks for the heads up, BigJoe! 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Sunday, January 24, 2010 10:28 AM ( #14 )
brtaylor81,
 
You are welcome. Nice pictures. Hope you get another soon to be a user, they are great knives. Well I know the Carbon V is, I do not have the Aus8A or the awsome limeted edition Signature model you got. Kind of Jellous of you for getting something shinny I do not have.
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Wednesday, February 03, 2010 11:59 PM ( #15 )
I just had mine arrive today, good old number 194. It is a great looking knife It really make a different look seeing it the white as opposed to the fully "dressed" version. I would not have it at all as SMKW are just about impossible to deal with internationally, had it not been for some assistance from a local, so thank you to you.
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Thursday, February 04, 2010 6:47 AM ( #16 )
congratz on your new shiny toys guys!  they look good. 
 
brtaylor81,
c'mon, you know you want to bust out that Carbon V and go to town!  dont worry, it can take it. 
 
          
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 8:54 AM ( #17 )
They still had  quite a few this weekend.  They sure looked sharp .

Of course I am a little put off now.  The clip on my Voyager broke some time back and they was $7.50 altogether for a new clip.  I've been a CS fan, but that ticks me off a little.
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 9:31 AM ( #18 )


I just had mine arrive today, good old number XXX. It is a great looking knife It really make a different look seeing it the white as opposed to the fully "dressed" version. I would not have it at all as SMKW are just about impossible to deal with internationally, had it not been for some assistance from a local, so thank you to you.
 

Forum members should not admit to violating his countries knife importation laws and, or how to, circumnavigate those laws in these forums.
 

P R O H I B I T E D  I T E M S  S E I Z E D
 
Dangerous weapons, cruel dog collars, animal parts and live
animals are among recent seizures by Customs around
Australia.
Officers in Adelaide seized a 19cm triple-bladed push knife in
an air express parcel from the United States when it showed
up in an x-ray - all international mail is x-rayed before being
distributed by Australia Post.
The knife was declared as a collector’s item but knives and
other weapons are restricted imports under Australian law and
a permit is required to import. It must be sought before
importation.
 
Phone: (02) 6275 6832 Fax: (02) 6275 6992 Internet: www.customs.gov.au Email: communication@customs.gov.au Previous issue: Summer 2005 ISSN 1329-7961 Articles from Manifest may be reproduced with acknowledgement of source.
 
Of course it is the responsibility of the Importer and not the Exporter to declare these items, but they seldom do. And that is the reason why so many knife sellers won't ship to certain countries.  It is because they are trying to protect the consumer who is responsible for the duties and tariffs.  "SMKW is (are) just about impossible" is a false and misleading statement. They are being no less impossible than Cold Steel is about shipping to other countries.  It is the people that insist that reasonable and law abiding companies do something that is not completely ethical that are the ones who are being "Impossible". IMHO
 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 3:40 PM ( #19 )
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congratz on your new shiny toys guys!  they look good. 
 
brtaylor81,
c'mon, you know you want to bust out that Carbon V and go to town!  dont worry, it can take it. 


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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 4:21 PM ( #20 )
Ausdigr, I feel compelled to inform you that I have contacted the local authorities and they should shortly be arriving at your home to confiscate the supposedly illegal imported goods.  Enjoy the next few minutes with your limited edition collectable knife.   
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 4:33 PM ( #21 )
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Ausdigr, I feel compelled to inform you that I have contacted the local authorities and they should shortly be arriving at your home to confiscate the supposedly illegal imported goods.  Enjoy the next few minutes with your limited edition collectable knife.   


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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 4:48 PM ( #22 )
Nobody like a snitch, ............................well unless I stand to gain anything from it, then it's ok.
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 5:27 PM ( #23 )
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Nobody like a snitch, ............................well unless I stand to gain anything from it, then it's ok.

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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 6:34 PM ( #24 )
Due to the fact I am an international customs agent king pin, it is regrettably my duty to inform you gentlemen that you're under investigation for suspicion of interstate BS trafficing.  Suspicion of buying such BS is an article 2 section 2 offense.  "Go sit in the portolet for 20 minutes" -Peyton Manning
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 7:16 PM ( #25 )
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I just had mine arrive today, good old number XXX. It is a great looking knife It really make a different look seeing it the white as opposed to the fully "dressed" version. I would not have it at all as SMKW are just about impossible to deal with internationally, had it not been for some assistance from a local, so thank you to you.
 

Forum members should not admit to violating his countries knife importation laws and, or how to, circumnavigate those laws in these forums.


P R O H I B I T E D  I T E M S  S E I Z E D
 
Dangerous weapons, cruel dog collars, animal parts and live
animals are among recent seizures by Customs around
Australia.
Officers in Adelaide seized a 19cm triple-bladed push knife in
an air express parcel from the United States when it showed
up in an x-ray - all international mail is x-rayed before being
distributed by Australia Post.
The knife was declared as a collector’s item but knives and
other weapons are restricted imports under Australian law and
a permit is required to import. It must be sought before
importation.
 
Phone: (02) 6275 6832 Fax: (02) 6275 6992 Internet: www.customs.gov.au Email: communication@customs.gov.au Previous issue: Summer 2005 ISSN 1329-7961 Articles from Manifest may be reproduced with acknowledgement of source.
 
Of course it is the responsibility of the Importer and not the Exporter to declare these items, but they seldom do. And that is the reason why so many knife sellers won't ship to certain countries.  It is because they are trying to protect the consumer who is responsible for the duties and tariffs.  "SMKW is (are) just about impossible" is a false and misleading statement. They are being no less impossible than Cold Steel is about shipping to other countries.  It is the people that insist that reasonable and law abiding companies do something that is not completely ethical that are the ones who are being "Impossible". IMHO
 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Monday, February 08, 2010 7:54 PM ( #26 )
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P R O H I B I T E D  I T E M S  S E I Z E D
 

Dangerous weapons, cruel dog collars, animal parts and live

animals are among recent seizures by Customs around

Australia.

Officers in Adelaide seized a 19cm triple-bladed push knife in

an air express parcel from the United States when it showed

up in an x-ray - all international mail is x-rayed before being

distributed by Australia Post.

The knife was declared as a collector’s item but knives and

other weapons are restricted imports under Australian law and

a permit is required to import. It must be sought before

importation.
 
Phone: (02) 6275 6832 Fax: (02) 6275 6992 Internet: www.customs.gov.au Email: communication@customs.gov.au Previous issue: Summer 2005 ISSN 1329-7961 Articles from Manifest may be reproduced with acknowledgement of source.
 
Of course it is the responsibility of the Importer and not the Exporter to declare these items, but they seldom do. And that is the reason why so many knife sellers won't ship to certain countries.  It is because they are trying to protect the consumer who is responsible for the duties and tariffs.  "SMKW is (are) just about impossible" is a false and misleading statement. They are being no less impossible than Cold Steel is about shipping to other countries.  It is the people that insist that reasonable and law abiding companies do something that is not completely ethical that are the ones who are being "Impossible". IMHO
 
Scott


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 You really need to check your facts.

If I am in error I apologize.  The quote above is from an Australian Customs Publication called "Manifest" dated 2005 (the link seems to be active).  My statement that it is the importers responsibility comes from a talk that I had several weeks ago with the U.S. Customs Regional Director of Houston (retired).  He seemed to think, after his 30 years with the Treasury Department, that by law, it is the importers job to pay the fees due to the Government agencies that the items are being imported to.  This seems logical to me and I did not question his authority on the matter.
 
After 30 years with the Treasury Department he retired 2 years ago and is now a consultant for companies, both domestic and international, who wish to set up "Free Trade Zones" near ports in order to minimize import duties, taxes and penalties.  We had specific discussions about small and large shipments into and out of the United States, how the duties could be reduced and how those "Zones" could be applied to knives.  If you could tell me the facts that are in error it could be a huge help to me.  
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 6:09 AM ( #27 )
As I said you really need to check your facts:-

  1. The importation of all knives is not illegal into Australia only some kinds, the Tanto is perfectly legal to own and import.
  2. My opinion on SMKW has absolutely nothing to do with a customs declarion I don't where you pulled that assumtption from but I can guess. It has everything to do with the fact they do not accept foreign credit cards or Paypal, charge more for postage than acceptable for the item with international orders (basically almost more than half the cost of the item again), and even if I wanted to pay an exhorbitant amount of postage there delivery time was much longer than anyone else.
  3. Are you trying to imply that CS or anyone else make false customs declarations so that they can deal internationally where to you at least, other more pious businesses do not?
  4. Here is a concept for you Duty Free shopping. I would have thought someone who obviously is so aware of the laws of my country would be aware of it and what it means. As you have so obviously have spent so much time on the customs webpage it amazes me you overlooked something so obvious.
  5. Also as you correctly pointed out ALL parcels from overseas are x-rayed by customs before delivery so I am sure they would be the ones contacting me about any of my purchases before you did.
 
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Re:Smoky Moutain Kife Works Catalogue cover Signiture LCT Recon Tanto. - Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:29 AM ( #28 )
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As I said you really need to check your facts:-
1.       The importation of all knives is not illegal into Australia only some kinds, the Tanto is perfectly legal to own and import.
2.       My opinion on SMKW has absolutely nothing to do with a customs declarion I don't where you pulled that assumtption from but I can guess. It has everything to do with the fact they do not accept foreign credit cards or Paypal, charge more for postage than acceptable for the item with international orders (basically almost more than half the cost of the item again), and even if I wanted to pay an exhorbitant amount of postage there delivery time was much longer than anyone else.
3.       Are you trying to imply that CS or anyone else make false customs declarations so that they can deal internationally where to you at least, other more pious businesses do not?
4.       Here is a concept for you Duty Free shopping. I would have thought someone who obviously is so aware of the laws of my country would be aware of it and what it means. As you have so obviously have spent so much time on the customs webpage it amazes me you overlooked something so obvious.
5.        Also as you correctly pointed out ALL parcels from overseas are x-rayed by customs before delivery so I am sure they would be the ones contacting me about any of my purchases before you did.  

 
Maybe you can re read my Post
1.       I never stated that the importation of "all" or ANY knife is illegal.  I don’t profess to know those specific laws for every country.  I only made the point that your country, Australia, requires that you declare and get a permit before you import a weapon such as a knife.  If that is what you have always done when getting shipments from individuals rather than Companies then I am surprised and again offer my apologies to you.
2.       You have a greater knowledge of SMKWs practices than I have.  I may have over reached with my statement of opinion.  I have never dealt with them, much less from overseas.  My “assumptions” is really just an theory that web based knife seller have had too many complaints from customers who have had their shipments taken by customs and want their money back from the company where they bought the knife.  I doubt that is the case with you but you can imagine that has happened many times.  When a knife is taken by Customs my guess is that the customer's FIRST call is to the seller's Customer Service not to his import broker.
3.       On the Contrary, I am stating the opinion that Cold Steel is doing everything in their power to avoid both breaking any laws and breaking any trusts that it has with it’s customers.  That is part and parcel as to the reason that many customers, yourself included, have found it advantageous to use a third person to receive your knives.  It is not hard to find who in the U.S. has been making these shipments (quite legally) by searching “The Good, Bad and Ugly” section of the Forums.
4.       Again, I don’t profess the greatest knowledge of Australian Law and I have never looked into how the Australian government classifies what I termed a “free trade” zone.  I only investigated that set of laws, informally, for the U.S.  AFAICS the term “free trade” is used differently not only from country to country but in the United States the use and conditions of “free trade” changes from State to State.  These terms and conditions have no universal reprocosity between countries or States and I have made no implication that they do.  Also the "free trade zone" really has nothing to do with the facts that you said I needed to check. It was only an anecdotal account of why I stated that it is the importer's duty to pay and file for all taxes. levies, fees or fines.   As far as something being obvious, "Free Trade Zones" which can save some companies 100s of 1,000s (some companies save millions) of dollars and "Duty Free Shopping" which is just a Airport Shopping Scam (you still need to pay the Duty),  only have the word "free" in common. (for more details about the differences you can click on the links)
5.     As to the last "Fact" on your laundry list that you think I needed to check:  Why the Hell would I ever want to contact you about any of your purchases?
 
To sum up: I think my facts are in order but should not have implications read into them that just are not there. The only facts I stated were copied from the Australian Customs publication. The rest is pretty much opinion as witnessed by the “IMHO” at the end of the paragraph. If you would like me to recheck my honest opinion I would be happy to do so. . . . . . . . lets see . . . Yep, I just rechecked it and this Is My Honest Opinion.


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It is obvious that this is WAY off the Subject and I am Sorry that I didn't start this in a new Thread.  If any Mod could move it I would be thankful,  Just so long as it doesn't get move to the Recycle Bin or Perm Delete  B^)
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