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"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 5:44 AM ( #1 )
Just browsing auction items on Aukro.cz and there it is - the ballistic knife. I wanted it so much when I was like 14-16!
Bad luck, now I have the money but looks like I'm more reasonable. 11000 CZK? No way! I can have a gun license and all the pays around, a semi-auto rifle and some cool knife for that (+-580$).
But it's quite an interesting item, so I've decided to link it here.
Hey, CS guys, make this for some reasonable price!
A little translation:overall lenght 230mm, weight 220g, max. range 30m, spring power 500N, blade length 110mm. Used but 100% ok, just the finish modified. Made by czech knifemaker Jan Puda, who's said to only make 25 of these.
In 1994 it won "Knife of the year"
check it here 

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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:47 AM ( #2 )
I think it would be illegal in many locations, certainly in Holland.
But I'd love to own one.

Is the same one in use by Spetsnaz?
 
Edit:  € 430 is a bit steep... Maybe another day. ;)
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 9:41 AM ( #3 )
I think that is the same one the Spetznas used.  Wicked knife though eh?  Hey Scott, does that law posted above include Alaska?

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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:56 AM ( #4 )
Very fun looking...
But very very illegal looking..
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:43 PM ( #5 )
Its a great knife I just wish it was not illegal in the usa
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 2:45 PM ( #6 )
Illegal...  isn't it odd how our wonderful gov't in the US just decides what's ok and what's not ok for us to defend ourselves with?  This is a small metal tube with a circular spring that shoots a metal dart at a target.  A crossbow does the same thing in principle.  It uses a bow spring to create tension and shoot a metal dart at it's target.  One you can buy at walmart and the other can be a felony in certain places....

Yes the comparison may be a bit of a stretch but I think you get my point...

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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 6:31 PM ( #7 )
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Illegal...  isn't it odd how our wonderful gov't in the US just decides what's ok and what's not ok for us to defend ourselves with?  This is a small metal tube with a circular spring that shoots a metal dart at a target.  A crossbow does the same thing in principle.  It uses a bow spring to create tension and shoot a metal dart at it's target.  One you can buy at walmart and the other can be a felony in certain places....

Yes the comparison may be a bit of a stretch but I think you get my point...

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I get your point and I agree. All these types of laws such as switch blade laws and fully automatic weapon laws were borne out of knee jerk over reaction.Too many Americans are willing to give up freedom for the illusion of security.
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 8:06 PM ( #8 )
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Illegal...  isn't it odd how our wonderful gov't in the US just decides what's ok and what's not ok for us to defend ourselves with?  This is a small metal tube with a circular spring that shoots a metal dart at a target.  A crossbow does the same thing in principle.  It uses a bow spring to create tension and shoot a metal dart at it's target.  One you can buy at walmart and the other can be a felony in certain places....

Yes the comparison may be a bit of a stretch but I think you get my point...

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I agree but to make the point here, it is a lot harder for you to slip a crossbow into you front pocket than it is for you to slip this there.  This is the crux of the issue.

If you really want to make a good, well founded and sound argument about how stupid the law is, how about this one?

"This is a small metal tube with a circular spring that shoots a knife-bladed dart at a target.  Spend $20 at a hardware store and..."

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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:34 PM ( #9 )
About the Specnaz question - I'm not sure, but I think I've read some article about this knife and it said that he was inspirated by those, but made his own design and some improvements.
As for the legality - I think it's legal here, maybe just no one expected such weapon...I don't know. But our law is mostly concerned with firearms only.
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:41 AM ( #10 )
heh, a knife party sounds fun.  especially if we got everyone to attend.  im sure this would probably never happen due to travel distance, money, etc, but it sure would be nice.  everyone could bring their collections.  we would probably need a space as big as a museum though.  some folks' collections are pretty vast. 

as far as the ballistic knife goes, i doubt CS would make one considering they are illegal here in the states.  too much hassle and red tape to filter through. 
            
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:52 AM ( #11 )
Ok, they can make just the hilt and blade, that's totally legal. It's not their fault somebody adds a spring inside....
If you make iron pipes, they can also be loaded with powder and bullet to make a firearm...
Ok, just kidding. To tell the truth, I'd like to have this knife in my collection but I don't think I'd carry it.
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Wednesday, August 19, 2009 12:14 PM ( #12 )
I can see why some sheeple are afraid of a ballistic knife, BUT, a spring-loaded knife blade and a loaded handgun are the same thing. As long as the person handling it uses it for SD and not criminal acitivity, where's the harm? Oh, sorry. I forgot what political climate I was living in. Who set the thermostat all the way up to "Stupid"?

My favorite scene in the movie "The Punisher" is when The Punisher crawls from the car wreck and shoots hit man Harry Heck (Mark Collie) in the neck with his ballisitc knife.

That is one time when bringing a knife to a gun fight paid off!
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:25 PM ( #13 )
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Illegal...  isn't it odd how our wonderful gov't in the US just decides what's ok and what's not ok for us to defend ourselves with?  This is a small metal tube with a circular spring that shoots a metal dart at a target.  A crossbow does the same thing in principle.  It uses a bow spring to create tension and shoot a metal dart at it's target.  One you can buy at walmart and the other can be a felony in certain places....

Yes the comparison may be a bit of a stretch but I think you get my point...

superdave


I agree but to make the point here, it is a lot harder for you to slip a crossbow into you front pocket than it is for you to slip this there.  This is the crux of the issue.

If you really want to make a good, well founded and sound argument about how stupid the law is, how about this one?

"This is a small metal tube with a circular spring that shoots a knife-bladed dart at a target.  Spend $20 at a hardware store and..."


and what? what???!!! please tell me I NEED TO KNOW!
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:52 PM ( #14 )
And I could make one of these myself pretty easily.  There, did that help you at all?

If you were hoping I would tell YOU how to do it, think again.  Way to many legal issues for that to happen.

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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:25 PM ( #15 )
In Arizona I have seenthe CO2 powered version for sale, about $600.00 USD.
 
as far as the spring versions go, I know a guy who said his Uncle was issued one during the Vietnam Conflict. The detail of the release mechanism he described, looks different than the one linked to.
 
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Sunday, August 23, 2009 1:58 PM ( #16 )
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And I could make one of these myself pretty easily.  There, did that help you at all?

If you were hoping I would tell YOU how to do it, think again.  Way to many legal issues for that to happen.


ha ha. no. these hold no interest for me; if i had one of these on me with a sprong as powerful as the ones ive seen in videos and that sucker went off...welll lets jsut say i wouldnt be having a good day
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Sunday, August 30, 2009 8:15 PM ( #17 )
Those where legal to own here at one time but one thing changed that.
There was an episode of a TV show called the Equalizer staring Edward Woodward, David Bowie was a bad guy about to board a plane Woodward was being pinned to a wall by the Airport Police he got a hand free pulled out the BB and launched it. Striking Bowie in the back of the neck (I think)  That clip was taken out of context and shown around different news media outlets as to the dangers of them and how you could shoot people with them. That is when the feds  ( B A T F )screamed to have them outlawed them.  They made them here in Florida from parts imported from the then    U S S R  and sold by Century Arms.
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Monday, August 31, 2009 8:31 AM ( #18 )
just goes to show how stupid people can be.  i really do worry about the future of the human race... 
            
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Friday, September 04, 2009 7:44 PM ( #19 )
They where sold in the U.S. For a couple of years. When most states made them illegal they started selling them with out the knife but with a button on the end that shot off, and them sold the knife part as an other item it was a hallow handled knife blade. I have one some where.
The trouble with having an open mind, of course, is that people will insist on coming along and trying to put things in it.
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Saturday, September 05, 2009 10:42 AM ( #20 )

Ya I missed a chance to pick one up years ago here in Florida when you could get them at gun shows. Should have seen what was going to happen and grabbed it. 
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Re:"Ballistic knife" - Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:35 PM ( #21 )
Ugh I  wish they were legal here...
As others have said, it's the only knife you can bring to a gunfight and survive with.

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