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Zippo lighters - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 7:10 PM ( #1 )
Zippo lighters- accept no substitutes.
 
 
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Re:Zippo lighters - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 7:45 PM ( #2 )
In my experience Zippo's & Butane lighters dont work well here at higher cold elevations where I camp and hunt. The fuel evaporates or it just plain doesn't light..it sparks fine which works to start the tinder but it kind of defeats the purpose of carrying it as a lighter IMO. In the lower areas elevations of 2 - 1500ft they work excellent and I have carried them both for years....anything more than that I make sure to have another source....usually waterproof strike anywhere matches. It may very well be the different climates that effect the usage.. But for whatever the reason...good or bad it's better to know than not..
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Re:Zippo lighters - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:28 PM ( #3 )
Zippo's are worthless in Colorado, the fuel evaporates out a day or two after you fill it, so unless you chain smoke like a fiend or are willing to refuel it every morning there is no point in having one. I use bic lighters, firesteels w/premade tinder and strike anywhere matches instead. 
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Re:Zippo lighters - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 9:51 PM ( #4 )
what elevation, guys? I had no problems with mine in CA, 8-10K feet or so in the seirras. 
I have heard the same thing about bics, ect at altitude as well.  
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Re:Zippo lighters - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:34 PM ( #5 )
After watching the video I am going to try rubber around the zippo. It may be the answer to what I said about the fuel evaporating here..I've tried different fuels and it made no difference.. Possibly with the rubber sealing it there wouldn't be that problem..
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Re:Zippo lighters - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 10:54 PM ( #6 )
sounds like you might need a factory tune if it leaks- they made my sloppy, leaking, burn my leg off zippo I found in HS one of the tightest, and best lighters i have.

The band does help with the evap, as well. I also find that carrying it close to the body when its real cold helps alot, with any lighter.
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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 10:12 AM ( #7 )
I'm not real sure about this one.  I've carried a Zippo for more years than I can recall. I even have one that Zippo said they could not repair because the damage was do to abuse. In their defence it does have a 7.62 hole threw it.
And I do admit if they are completely submerged they do need to have fluid flushed threw them. 
But on elevation and them not working or drying out fast?  I've never run into this, even years ago when some friends and I where messing about on Killmanjaro mine worked just fine.
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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:40 AM ( #8 )
Don't get me wrong...lol We have a love hate relationship and have come to an understanding...I collect them and use them regularly over any other brand throughout the day & night. There are many factors and climates that I've carried them that in some conditions they won't work... Ie:When I fell through the ice and tried to start a fire....my zippo, bic and matches were useless to me...however the fire rod, leatherman & gunpowder from shells worked great to get a fire going....Was it the lighters fault?....It got wet and didn't work... was it in a bag or wrapped in rubber? No... How many lighters can you use to light a smoke when riding a motorcycle?? Other than an electric one & Zippo I haven't found one. After watching the video there were some tips to try out which might be what the solution is. IMO at this point I am unable to say that it's the ultimate survival tool in my experiences... That is subject to change for sure after I test them with the changes. It's a great lighter with a windproof guarantee and numerous uses.
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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:03 PM ( #9 )
Zippo's are good EDC lighters, but they are poor choices for survival situations
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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:26 PM ( #10 )
I love my Zippo, but I have the same problem as many others mentioned here. I live in a dry place with high elevation. It evaporates very quickly and I need to fill it all the time if I want to use it regularity. It works well though when there is fuel in it. I just use matches mostly.
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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:36 PM ( #11 )

At least you can get fuel for it.  Around here (Arkansas) -no one- carries lighter fluid.  Not Walmart or any of the convenience stores either. I have a couple of Zippo hand warmers too and need fuel for them.  Bummer.  




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I love my Zippo, but I have the same problem as many others mentioned here. I live in a dry place with high elevation. It evaporates very quickly and I need to fill it all the time if I want to use it regularity. It works well though when there is fuel in it. I just use matches mostly.


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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 6:58 PM ( #12 )
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Re:Zippo lighters - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:12 PM ( #13 )
Mini Bic Lighters work better for me , maintenance free and so cheap you can get a three pack for a couple bucks at Wally's so I keep one handy and another one in a small ziploc bag in my pack , only thing is you MUST get rid of the annoying child safety metal strip , flame gets higher as well without it ...
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Re:Zippo lighters - Saturday, January 26, 2013 3:15 PM ( #14 )
I like lighters that have a screw-on cap with rubber O-ring to seal the fuel in. Have one in my EDC set (would also make a survival set if needed) and it works just fine. I don't smoke, so I need a lighter that can be kept long time without any attention and then used when th need comes. 
I bought mine on EDCdepot.com, but even nicer ones are available at countycomm.com shop. Got one of those for my BIL and he loves it.
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Re:Zippo lighters - Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:11 PM ( #15 )

I have had Bic lighters in my bug out bag for decades.  I did find that I needed to change them out after a year or two as they got where they were -very- hard to light.  No big deal as you can buy packages of 6 at Walmart very cheaply.  Also Zippo does make a waterproof outdoors lighter.  It even comes with 8 tinder sticks.  Smoky Mountain catalog is full of Zippos including the survival type.  . 




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Mini Bic Lighters work better for me , maintenance free and so cheap you can get a three pack for a couple bucks at Wally's so I keep one handy and another one in a small ziploc bag in my pack , only thing is you MUST get rid of the annoying child safety metal strip , flame gets higher as well without it ...


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