Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear

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Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:35 PM
i'm assuming the bushman is the ideal knife to improvise into a spear; if you have differing opinion, feel free to express yourself.

what would be the ideal diameter for the wood dowel that is to be inserted as the shaft into the cavity of the bushman?  i guess another way to ask this is what is the diameter of the shafts on the boar spear and assegai, respectively?  

and any suggestions on where to purchase the shafts would be appreciated.  the best i can think of is at home depot, but the oak dowel there is only 3 ft, the hardwood dowel is too weak and i'm not so sure about the quality of the spare shovel shafts.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 8:52 PM
i would say, take a piece of wood a little bit bigger than the handle and carve it a little bit until it fit inside just tight enough.
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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:00 PM
If you look on the handle of the bushman  , you can see a screwhole , i would get a good straigh chunk of oak and whiddle it down until the oak sit an inch or two past that whole , and then id screw it into place.
 

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, October 26, 2011 10:36 PM
I would use a Warhead as a spearhead if I wanted to reinvent the wheel. Use a boat hook for the shaft. The Cold Steel spears are really quite good as is.
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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:08 AM
IMO as far as CS spears go the one and only is the Boar Spear  But although I do not know the ideal sized piece that you need I will say something that could be of help,start looking around your house.Long long ago I hated the landlord who owned the building I was living in at the time,I knew damn well it wasent like the security deposit was ever to be seen again so upon moving out I took everything that wasent nailed down (And some things that were and I needed to unscrew or pry off the walls lol) to piss him off as bad as possible

Hell if my mother had not stopped me cause she figured we would get sued I was all ready to take a sledge hammer to the bathtub,sinks,toilet Ect...anyway I ended up with a ton of stuff mostly fairly useless but I ended up with a ton of "Closet sticks" of all manner of thickness as well as length.I am sure if you find one the length you are looking for and thicker than you need it would be only a small and pretty easy project to shave off enough off so it fits into the Bushman handle tight and secure just check often so you dont remove more than you want to.If not buying a ready made spear I think honestly the Bushman seems like it would make a fantastic spear once affixed to the handle you like and probably save a deal compared to buying it all ready to go.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:02 PM
Old pool cue's with a single piece construction can be found in thrift store very cheap.  Already tapered, solid hardwood and counterweighted to boot, but that won't make a full size spear shaft.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Friday, October 28, 2011 6:23 PM
This is what I used. As you can see, the shaft is oval. Length is 4,5'. So with the bushman it's about 5'.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, October 29, 2011 1:14 AM
Never tried with the Bushman, but I have been trying to make spears. When I went to my local home depot, I took what they had, but it was only beech. Not the best wood, and even though it was relatively thick (about 1"1/2 diameter), it cracked. If I remember well, the longer shaft I could fine with decent diameter was a straight fork handle, but it was only 4ft 5in. Anyway, it cracked, but maybe the socket of the Bushman would prevent it better. Anyway, I've always heard that ash was the best wood to make shafts and handles, but I guess you can't pick the wood of your choice in home depots shafts.
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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:19 PM
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tgood straigh chunk of oak and whiddle it down until the oak sit an inch or two past that whole , and then id screw it into place.



thanks.

i'm not so sure (red) oak is the ideal wood to use as the shaft for the spear, although if i had no other choice i would use it.

the 36" oak dowel they sell at home depot is certainly going to be red oak at $3.99 and relatively porous, although application of wood treatment would help a bit.

i know white oak is far superior and used in the more expensive bokken but i would have to somehow find out where they sell it, if they do.


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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:27 PM
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The Cold Steel spears are really quite good as is.



i agree, i may end up just buying the dedicated spear(s) since they're not that much more expensive than the bushman knives themselves, about $20 - 30 more.

although as a nycer it may be overkill to have axes of the battle variety and full length spears lying around the house, i may buy them and have them remain unassembled.

with all these weapons around the house, i may not get married ...

unless maybe i go find a barbarian asian wife from a third world country.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:37 AM
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unless maybe i go find a barbarian asian wife from a third world country.


Wouldn't it be easier if you just married one of the many psychotic, whack jobs chicks living in NYC?


I know plenty and I live in Chicago My guess is they are not that hard to find in any city with a good sized population ya just gotta figure out where they are lol

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:20 AM
Chicks into weopons...

You could always try the BDSM scene?
 

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, November 05, 2011 3:39 PM
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1) Long long ago I hated the landlord who owned the building I was living in at the time, I took everything that wasent nailed down (And some things that were and I needed to unscrew or pry off the walls lol) to piss him off as bad as possible

2) If not buying a ready made spear I think honestly the Bushman seems like it would make a fantastic spear once affixed to the handle you like and probably save a deal compared to buying it all ready to go.


1) never renting out to anyone named james from now on

2) gotta check out the price of the shovel handles at home depot and other places where they sell wood, but i don't think i'll be saving that much money since the assegai and boar spear are only $15 - 30 more than the bushman knife without accounting for the cost of the to-be-improvised wood shaft

i dunno, i may end up just getting all of them, the 2 cs spears and the 2 bushman knives...    and maybe even the 2 handed kukri too..    :)




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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, November 05, 2011 3:40 PM
Picksmith

Old pool cue's with a single piece construction can be found in thrift store very cheap. 

Already tapered, solid hardwood and counterweighted to boot, but that won't make a full size spear shaft.


i'll check it out sir, thanks for the suggestion. 

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, November 05, 2011 3:43 PM
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I made a Bushman spear from a shovel handle.

I used the Bushman to whittle down the end until it fit inside the handle.  Took all of 10 minutes. Insert screw. Done.



do the bushman knives come with a screw that they recommend you use?

i don't like big screws.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, November 05, 2011 3:45 PM
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This is what I used. As you can see, the shaft is oval. Length is 4,5'. So with the bushman it's about 5'.



thank you for the photo suggestion as an idea.



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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, November 05, 2011 3:51 PM
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Never tried with the Bushman, but I have been trying to make spears. When I went to my local home depot, I took what they had, but it was only beech. Not the best wood, and even though it was relatively thick (about 1"1/2 diameter), it cracked. If I remember well, the longer shaft I could fine with decent diameter was a straight fork handle, but it was only 4ft 5in. Anyway, it cracked, but maybe the socket of the Bushman would prevent it better. Anyway, I've always heard that ash was the best wood to make shafts and handles, but I guess you can't pick the wood of your choice in home depots shafts.



yeah, i may end up dismissing all of home depot offerings, but i will check them out first...   1.5" seems to be the diameter to be going for but i know i will have harder time swinging and spinning the spear stick that around like a kung fu wannabe

looks like the long shovel handle replacements are the ones to focus on.


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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Saturday, November 05, 2011 3:57 PM
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jbs

unless maybe i go find a barbarian asian wife from a third world country.


Wouldn't it be easier if you just married one of the many psychotic, whack jobs chicks living in NYC?


it was a facetious statement, sir, but...   so was yours.  :)

one good thing about nyc is that since there are so many females unworthy of dating seriously, when you actually see good ones they shine and stand out so very much.

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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Tuesday, November 15, 2011 6:36 PM
I went to Lowes and found a replacement hoe handle that works great with the bushman.

The hoe handle has a tapered metal collar at one end. it fits into the bushman like it was made for it.

I was able to put a screw right through the metal (it is thin) to secure the bushman.

I have been using this pair for a long time. The bushman is a great knife, and a good spear. It can really take some abuse without breaking.

I highly reccomend it.
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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:36 PM
BRASF0311


Lowes .............a replacement hoe handle   ....has a tapered metal collar at one end. it fits into the bushman like it was made for it.

I was able to put a screw right through the metal (it is thin) to secure the bushman.

I have been using this pair for a long time. The bushman is a great knife, and a good spear. It can really take some abuse without breaking.

I highly reccomend it.


thank you.  i'll take a look.


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Re:Bushman Knife Conversion to Spear - Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:19 PM
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BRASF0311


Lowes .............a replacement hoe handle   ....has a tapered metal collar at one end. it fits into the bushman like it was made for it.

I was able to put a screw right through the metal (it is thin) to secure the bushman.



thank you.  i'll take a look.

Same here. Great info. Thanks!
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