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What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 5:45 AM ( #1 )
I was reading our previous survival thread with great interest and was thinking what would you put in your own "wilderness lodge". Wildereness doesn't necessarily have to mean in the middle of no where, I was thinking more along the lines of self sufficiency.
 
So here is as scenario, you now have a building , a cabin, lodge or hut which ever you care to call it. Basically 4 walls and a roof.  This will be your retreat if all else fails and you are expected to live there for at least 12 months maybe longer. We will make it out of town in the bush with plentiful wildlife and a water course nearby (But not too close by):-
 
  • I am going to limit items you may use to thinks that you can carry 
  • a budget limit of $1,000.00.
  • You have 1 month (30 days) to complete the fit out.
Ok so here is the challenge, what goes into your "Fortress of solitude" to enable you to survive, this means pots pans beds everthing.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 7:05 AM ( #2 )
Ah, could we have a revision of the baselines to make this a viable exercise, please, Digr?

Even our friends across the pond, who don't have to worry about Kev's Kut taking at least 1/4 the money, couldn't set up a retreat for that.

How about we make an outside campfire a given for cooking, and make it $5000 for basic equipment and staples? ( Oh, and have a caveat that the pack trips are whatever it takes to pack it in from the road? )

IMHO that's still drastically limiting it for several months, but it may be possible.

FWIW

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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 7:35 AM ( #3 )
Well the fire was a given unless someone wanted to make a 44 gallon drum fireplace like I have seen in a hut before. Ok and have an extra $4,000 lucky it was just Christmas. Now get the gears grinding.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 10:02 AM ( #4 )
I am going to keep it simple. 
 
A really good sleeping bag / mat and real pillow.  Not looking for light weight pack bag---I want lots of padding and loft.  Also a hammock---not only for sleeping---also for putting stuff up off the ground and out of reach of critters.
 
Dutch oven, wok and my pyromid  (http://www.pyromid.net/)   (love this thing)
I likes to eat and if you can eat well and sleep warm and comfy the rest is gravy.

Full size shovel (sorry CS) and axe

A fish trap, minnow trap, fishing gear including traut line cast net and sein.  Not talking about sport fishing.
(I can and have made the traps--but if I have the money would buy em----or make them from chicken wire before leaving home---could make a half dozen and pack em in easy.)  minimal cost.  Free if you don't mind visiting dumps.
Perhaps a bird net as well.

Box type live traps,  Leg hold traps and big game snares. (sorry if this offends but nature is harsh and yes I know how to use both.)  Fish and game traps work while you sleep and do other essential chores, maximizing your productivity.    Included in this outfit is several bicycle inner tubes---these are for the traps so old ones will do, but might as well have new and use them for...

Mtn bike and one set of spare tires.  Mobility is a wondrous thing---use it to haul water--to go hunting away from your game depleted site-- and pack back more meat than you can carry on your back   (you can strap the load to the bike and walk beside it like a wheelbarrow).
 
small boat if water is big enough to rate it.--kayak pero--inflatable raft.--even a kiddie type if thats all I could afford.  If money gets tight before you get this, just a waterproof tarp and a hoop can make a drift boat.   if nothing else a set of fishermans waders---preferably floating style.---not only for fishing---also water plants--wild rice etc.  (most places it gets cold enough sometime during the year that you don't actually want to get wet if you can avoid it.)

25-50 lb of salt.
 
Several useful books I have on edible plants, indian and herbal medicine as well as modern medical guides.   my dental repair kit and a large first aid kit including sutures forceps etc.
 
non hybrid seeds that will grow in that area.
 
5 gal plastic buckets because rodents like to eat your supplies.
 
several sizes of nylon line/rope. 
 
Medicine, vitamins (to supplement limited diet)  as much storage food as I could afford.
 
I left out light !  (it was lunchtime and I made myself hungry thinking about this)

In addition to my candle lantern and a few boxes of wax, I already have a 6 cell mag light.  and just got the son in law one for xmas.   I also have  these 12 volt battery packs for emergency car jumping that has a little light on it, AND a dashboard solar cell--I hook this to the 12 volt and hook the 12 volt to my battery charger which charges rechargeable D cells for my mag light.  Which also has the LED bulb which gives it a really long run time--though not near the brightness of the regular bulbs.

Oh--also can't forget the portable short wave and rechargeable batteries for it so I know whats going on in the world and when things settle down.  It can plug directly into that 12 volt battery pack also.
 
I am leaving firearms out of this because either you have em or you don't (and if you don't they will eat up all your funds and make this a "what guns" list.
 likewise not bothering to mention I will pack in all my Cold Steel because we did that.

 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 11:59 AM ( #5 )
here we go:

pillow and 2-3 wool blankets (assuming im by myself?)
2 extra pairs of clothes (jeans, long sleeve shirt, undies, shemagh, hat)
dutch oven. these things are awesome and make great food
1 ruger 10/22 rifle w/1000 rnds ammo. this gun is inexpensive to own and shoot, and has the ability to take down small game as well as deer size game.
25lbs salt/sugar
50 flour
5 large plastic bins/containers to store food/water/supplies
tom browns wilderness field guide book. this book contains invaluable info imo.
2500 non hybrid seeds. you can buy these off ebay for around 100$
1 18" bowie machete
full size shovel and axe.
id probably only take 2-3 knives with me. the mini bushman, trailmaster, and a folder. since i own these already, does it negate my spending limit?
number 10 cans(10 each) of dehydrated black beans, oats, hard red wheat, assorted fruits and veggies
fishing line w/ hooks and sinkers.
lotsa rope- 1000' of paracord. sells around here for 40$ or so.
flint and steel

id didnt give myself much food, but assuming the game is plentiful, i can hunt and trap for food/food storage (pemmican) then tan the hides for additional clothing/warmth.

pemmican is also a WONDERFUL thing. if anyone here doesnt know how to make it, i highly suggest you learn. im sure ill think of something else to add to the list. im well short of the 5000$ limit i think.



 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 12:20 PM ( #6 )
I see  a slight difference in how we view the question---not a problem, I like your ideas.
If we are choosing firearms I would vote for the 10/22 as well. (since they don't make my beloved Nylon 66 anymore
OK---probably even if they did still make it.

Here is an option for food.  this outfit does good with food in my experience.  Some of their other equipment runs to the cheap side.   Gives you an idea of how much food you can get for a couple thousand dollars worth of your budget.  Of course if you have the time and know how you can do it yourself cheaper.
http://beprepared.com/category.asp?c=40
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 1:11 PM ( #7 )
thats the best thing about these sort of topics dlyn454- differing thoughts. you can see how other people would do it and then apply things you like from their ideas into yours. i dont think there is any wrong answer to this question as peoples priorities differ.

i personally didnt even think about a full size shovel, but there have been lots of times when ive been hiking or camping and wished i had a shovel.

youre also right in the fact that you dont need a firearm. how many thousands of years did the native americans hunt successfully with spears, bows and arrows, and traps? if they did it, we surely can. its just the learning process will be longer for those who have not already done things like this. like u said, it could easily turn into a debate on which firearm would be the best etc etc.
 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 1:35 PM ( #8 )
Yeah.  One thing I was thinking with a shovel is breaking ground for a garden.  One thing to garden in an established plot.  Another to break up ground remove stones etc.   Yeah you could do it with the special forces shovel.  But if we are going to be staying in one spot a full size one from the local hardware store will save your back.

I thought about a cheap chain saw too.  With a couple jerry cans of gas you could get enough wood cut to last you a year and not have to battle trees with an axe every day---but even a cheap one would take a big bite out of your budget.  And if it craps out on you you would still need the axe.   Maybe rent a chain saw and spend part of that preparation month cutting firewood---or just pay to have some wood delivered near as possible to your cabin ?

I didn't even mention things like flint and steel matches etc. 
Flour I really should have.  That is a staple.  A few spices would also be nice.  Molasses or honey.  I think I would have to prioritize mine and figure what I could most do without.  But then a lot is not very expensive stuff.
 
Some would depend on climate and situation.  Is that water he mentioned a fishable navigable waterway---or a spring that provides drinking water and wildlife attraction but nothing else?
 
A metal coffee/tea pot to continually boil water in---spout makes it easy to pour the boiled water into other containers.  
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 2:49 PM ( #9 )
my understanding was the water was a stream capable of a water source for you and wildlife, but also a place to catch fish. but looking back at the original post, it doesnt say.

but even if it wasnt a place to catch fish, the fishing line and hooks could still be used to make bird snares, sew, etc
 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 3:03 PM ( #10 )
One trick we did when I was a boy.  There was usually a trickle stream running in front of the house in what was really the roadside ditch.   Since we were at the end of the road, it was good clean water.   We would catch fish elsewhere and bring them home alive and put them in there.   Kept 'em fresh until we were ready for them.  If you are near a headwater of even the tinyist stream you can enlarge a hole (there is that shovel at work) and make a fish holding tank.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 4:00 PM ( #11 )
My initia lwish list is:
I do own almost everything on this list, except some of the food.
Claw hammer
5, 1lb boxes of nails assorted sizes 2-4 inches
4 rolls bailing wire
Needle nose and linemans pliers
bow saw + 3 replacement blades
file
4 in one file
Full size ax and shovel and a trail boss/small ax
dutch oven
1/2 gal. and 1 gal pots with lids
1 12" frypan
hook knife of hoof knife.
Mini bushman
Trail Master
 
300feet of fishing line and 60 assorted hooks, 40 sinkers
Assegai spear head
Pump air rifle with 1000 pellets
.22lr bolt action 1000 rounds
1000 feet para cord
100 ft 1/2" rope
200 ft 3/8" rope
50 ft 1/4" cotton rope
 
2 sleeping bags one rated to 40deg F. the other 10deg lower than the lowest low for the area
pillow
foam mat for back packing
4 wool blankets
20 yards of med. weight cotton cloth
 
books: Tom Brown field guides, books on wild and edible plants, pencils and several blank journals.
 
cold weather coat
poncho
5 t-shirts, pants & underwear
10 pair wool socks
2 pair thermal underwear
1 extra pair of boots
beanie hat
boonie hat
 
3 hand held LED flashlights
1 LED HeadLamp
40 battaries
candle lantern and 12 9hr candles
 
500 kitchen matches
2 fire steels
1 magnisium block with striker
10 5gal buckets with lids
50 assorted needles and 3 spools of thread
 
Pain Meds
Antibiotics
First aid supplies
 
50 lbs oats
50 lbs rice
2gal honey
50 lbs flour
20 lbs salt
40 cans of tuna in oil
6 weeks worth of dehy drated fruit and vegtables
 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 5:45 PM ( #12 )
Much of what I'd consider has already been said, but FWIW;

Good large capacity (70-90L) pack (Macpac or similar for those who know good brands) to cart gear n supplies in & around (at least $500 there).
Good quality sleeping bag, plus inner bag such as Firefly, which can be used to raise rating, or as light summer bag (another $5-700)
Good full sized thermarest + patch kits + foam backup + hammock + 2-3 thermal blankets and 2 pillows

clothes to handle conditions and cater for damage/wear, bulk undies and socks, at least 3-4 pairs of good boots + 2-3 pairs or runners/sneakers

BBQ grille or heavy grate (either solid cast iron or at least 2 for when they burn out) and plate
Dutch oven
Cookware - collection of pots & frypans, at least 2 full sets  to cater for breakages/damage or loss
full sets of kitchen knives - at least 2 for breakages/damage or loss
camp stove & fuel for when weather makes outside cooking unviable (and when some heat inside is needed)
number of water bottles, 10-20L water containers and if possible a 50L container, large supply of water purification tablets, 10-20 buckets (to cater for breakage)

Candle lanterns and plenty of supplies of candles, at least 100 boxes of matches and 20-30 bic lighters + other lighting mechanism if possible, 10-30 garden solar lights (outside during the day to charge and bring them inside for light at night.

2-3 full sized axes, block splitter, bush saw + 3-4 extra blades,  assorted other saws for cutting needs, 2-3 claw hammers, lump hammer, full sized shovel, 2 mattocks, pick axe, crow bar, pry bars, brace and bit (+ hand drill + bits would be nice), screwdrivers, few Kilos of assorted nails, screws and nuts n bolts, 3-4 machettes, whatever knife collection we have/take, files and rasps, chisels pliers, shifters, and associated small items. Wire and chicken wire for building, snares etc, at least 200M of light line and at least 200M of heavier ropes, 6-10 medium to large tarps, gardening tools

Oh, and I know it's sort of against the rules, but a wheel barrow + pump for the tyre(s).

Hunting bow + accessories and at least 2 dozen arrows & broadheads ($7-900 and easier to get legally in Oz) ( better call that $1200-1500, given what I just paid out for MOST of what I specified, damn these people who put up 1/2 price sales ;^)
snares from supplies above
assorted fishing supplies and rod
at least 100 packets of assorted vegetable and herb seeds

at least 25-50 KG of rice
20 + KG of flour
10 + KG of salt
5 + KG of sugar
2 + KG of coffee
20 + KG of dried vegetables
10 + KG of pasta

  A few books, notepads & writing gear, and as previously mentioned, laptop for ebooks and movies (plus instructions on how to do things like make/set traps and snares and build things needed), solar panel big enough to charge the laptop and spare batteries if possible. dynamo torch(s) and radio

Damn, almost forgot, large (group) first aid kit, sewing supplies

That'd take a bit to cart in, but it should make it possible to live for a while.

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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Monday, December 28, 2009 7:47 PM ( #13 )
NB: Digr, on this point

"Well the fire was a given unless someone wanted to make a 44 gallon drum fireplace like I have seen in a hut before."

a) unless there's a 44 gal drum on-site already, it'd be a bitch to carry in (your rules ;^), and you could destroy an axe cutting it to make a fireplace, and
b) One of the reasons I went for external was to avoid need for chimneys/flues, flashing etc to get the cooking fire smoke out of the cabin, and stop the roof leaking too bad - inside fire, good, everything inside ruined by water, bad :o( ( presuming, of course, that our  4 walls and a roof are solid enough to keep the weather out in the first place, which I was, otherwise extra patching materials would be needed)
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:03 AM ( #14 )
Ok there are some many interesting points raised so far so here goes my list I will try not to include too many things already listed.

Personal
Boots with good ankle support. 2 pair
canvas shoes 1 pair
outdoor sandals 1 pair
100% cotton socks 7 pair
100% wool socks 7 pair
Thick cotton cargo shorts 2 pair
Thin cotton shorts 2 pair
Boxers 7 pair
T shirts thick cotton 7
Long sleeve shirts wool 7
Long sleeve shirts cotton 5
Waterproof jacket
woollen "bluey" type jacket
poncho & liner
wide brim hat
sun glasses
woollen beanie
leather gloves x 6 pair
wool gloves x 4 pair
large first aid kit

Hut
Metal garbage cans x3
large drums x 4
small drums x 4
metal buckets x 3
plastic buckets x 3
various size of glass jars with lids (probably obtained from food used)
KFS x 4
cast iron frypan
cast iron camp oven
kettel large
Hammock
winter weight sleeping bag
summer weight sleeping bag
wool blankes x 6
mozzie/fly net
folding bed
folding chair
pillow
metal cups x 4 (enamel)
plates x 4 (enamel)
bowls metal x 4 (enamel)
hessian sacks x 40
solar powered shed lights x 4
candles x 100
matches x 100 boxes
blastmatch or simlar
Food
Rice
flour
salt
sugar
pasta
powdered milk
dehydrated veg (mushrooms & onions & potato)
pepper
curry powder
garlic powder
canned chic peas
dried chick peas
honey
dried fruit (apricots , apples etc)
olive oil
 
Tools
Hammer x 3 sizes
Nails assorted sizes
tie wire x 300 mtrs
pliers x 2 pair
full size axe
full size shovel
full size pick
Entrenching tool x 3
wood saw & replacement blades x 4
various lengths of wood
Canvas tarps large x 2
Canvas tarps small x 4
550 paracord  1000 mtrs
5 various thicknesses of rope 200mtrs each
pulleys (block & tackle) x 5
Machete x 2                             (whichever flavour floats your boat)
fixed blade knife large x 3   
fixed blade knife small x 3
folding knife x 3
.22 lr bolt action rifle with 4 spare 10 round magazines and cleaning gear
5000 rounds ammo
water canteens x 4 (as large a capacity as available)
fishing line 400mtrs
various size hooks
files x 3
chisels x 3
2 pry bars
compass
magnifying glass
 
geez this list could be huge.
 
 
 
 
 




 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:18 AM ( #15 )
I think that is what built civilization.  We start off with a brush shelter and a hide to cover ourselves and then think "ya know, life would be better if I had................"  and we look at what our neighbor has and think "THATS a great idea, THATS the thing I need !"
I think the money angle was a good clause to put in the original question.  Makes a guy think of what he would need most. and what he would get if the money didn't run out.---even though none of us actually organized our list that way, it did make me think about it.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 9:32 AM ( #16 )
Oops, that's something we all forgot to date, washbasin (let's say 5 for breakages, they're cheap and light), solar shower, soap?

Dare say that we'd need to do SOME washing in a year or more?


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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:18 PM ( #17 )
No need ,I was going to "borrow" your wheel barrow on washing days Neale. Dirty clothes + water, a few laps around the hut to agitate and there you have it .

The money aspect I think is fine as I am sure most of us already own the majority of what is on our lists. Or if needed they could be obtained and maybe have funds left over.

Now if you really wanted to make things really hard, I would give the world a shake and no one would be in their own country any more for this scenario. So that would definately change things.!
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 4:57 PM ( #18 )
Digr - "Now if you really wanted to make things really hard, I would give the world a shake and no one would be in their own country any more for this scenario. So that would definately change things.!"

Ooh, dat's nasty ;^) That's actually the premise of those stories that Dlyn and I were referring to in the last thread, drop people in an environment where what they thought they knew was void, so they had to learn how to react to what they found.

Overall that shouldn't be an issue, early part of the month's spent on environmental research should equip a sensible person with the information to tailor his/her preparations to the environment at hand, eg WE would have to ascertain how to secure ourselves against bears, pumas, lions, tigers, telefants etc (and serious cold), Eirish and Kiwi people would have to work out how to deal with snakes, people from cool, wet environments need to understand arid requirements (and serious fires) people from the developed world have to find out about the critters of mass destruction that are out there, and how they can survive in their environment etc.

NB: You knock my rebel wheelbarrow, but in the developing world that's still the primary means of carting stuff about, if you bagged a goat/deer/sheep/pig/cow for food about 5-10 KM from your cabin, carrying it back would stuff you up, one or more trips with a wheelbarrow would be rather easier ( though you may still have to carry up steep grades ) FWIW

Oh, and I was talking about washing ourselves, clothes too I s'pose.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:04 PM ( #19 )
Hey I wasn't knocking the wheel barrow at all. I was nicking it ,because I didn't have one.

That really would be evil wouldnt it change environments on people like that. Just imagine dropping us into a northern hemisphere winter while they all drop into the peak of our summer. So cruel.......but so fun.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:23 PM ( #20 )
Again, thats the premise of Tunnel inthe Sky.  You show up for the exam without a cold weather suit you have already failed.---not that you will need it, but that you might and you didn't show up prepared.   On the other hand you might find yourself having to swim to shore in the tropics.  No clue till you go through the door.

I like the wheelbarrow.  Think of our Professional Urban Survivors (the homeless) with their shopping carts.   In a EMP disaster where the cars are dead but the roads are intact, (or if petrol is just unavailable)  you could transport a lot more in a wheelbarrow than on your back. 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Wednesday, December 30, 2009 8:21 PM ( #21 )
That's another thing that we all forgot so far, presuming that very few of us are prepared to go to the traditional Asian left hand wipe in a hurry, 100 + rolls of toilet paper (those of us who included picks, shovels etc have the means to build a toilet (downslope and preferably downwind from the hut), but those mundane day to day things DO make a difference, and I'm NOT ready to wipe me bum with me left hand yet.
(NB: This is why you NEVER touch anyone with your left hand in less developed Asian countries, it's a serious insult to use the unclean hand.)
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 1:05 AM ( #22 )
Yep I have to say I was going to say bring some old phone books for that very reason, lots of pages , lasts a long time before you run out. But I agree 100 plus rolls of dunny paper never goes astray, and who really wants a Johnny Cash if you dont have to.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 8:07 AM ( #23 )
Well I was thinking mostly on the lines of hardware in making my list---but I suppose that is a sort of hardware---or software we hope ?   Anyhow all the food you could get and pack in. We are really fortunate today that so much food has really long shelf life without refrigeration.  Doesn't have to be MREs.  All those dried noodles, powdered cake mixes, etc..  plus canned goods.   Some of those powdered mixes have dried milk and eggs in them.  May not be moms cooking or good nutrition--but it will keep you going.  Keep the mice out of the dried stuff and they will last a LONG time. (where those plastic containers some of us mentioned come in.)  Dried rice and beans and wheat are pretty cheap and dicing up that squirrel or itty bitty fish and mixing it in with a pot of rice makes a nice meal.
 
If your cabin is a ways back and you have to go on foot after the disaster, you pack everything you can from your house and haul it out and hide it--make a cache and then you can pick it up a bit at a time later.
 
Wouldn't hurt to have several caches anyhow.  So when you come home one day and find your cabin ransacked and all the food gone, you will not have had "all your eggs in one basket".    In the desert country they are still finding small caches the indians left of grain and spare weapons.   
 
Stash a stainless steel Cold Steel knife under a rock somewhere so after you get stripped and beaten you can re-arm.  
"One loves to possess arms, though they hope never to have occasion for them."  Thomas Jefferson to George Washington. 1796
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:29 AM ( #24 )
Dlyn - "Wouldn't hurt to have several caches anyhow. So when you come home one day and find your cabin ransacked and all the food gone, you will not have had "all your eggs in one basket".

That's a valid point, I was thinking that one of the early projects should be to build a root cellar/cool room, given that covering the walls and roof with dirt would improve the insulation, having it built into a slope a little ways from the cabin should make it relatively easy to hide ('specially if you re-planted bushes or saplings in front of the door, or just built the thing behind a stand of bushes) (hmmm, Robinson Crusoe is coming to mind, author wrote some good ideas into that story.)
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:45 AM ( #25 )
Good idea.  I had thought of a 'root cellar'  but just like granny's beside the north wall of the house.  But it would make more sense to have it a bit away and hidden.
 
have to protect from water damage as well as vermin--both bugs and rodents.  Again--plastic containers are cheap and light.   Some in the form of 5 gal buckets--can be used to carry water etc...  others in the form of plastic storage bins--which can become wash basins etc..
I aught to read Robinson Crusoe again.  Good book. Swiss Family Robinson as well.  Much was a bit far out there--but it provides food for thought --like this thread.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 10:38 AM ( #26 )
So this is a working list and I may change it as I read over everyone elses post but I wanted to see what I could think of first.  For some reason I thought I only had one trip out to the cabin (glanced over that 30 day thing).  I would add more food to the list.  I was trying to set up for a basically comfortable life, near to what I have now.  I also set this up for me and my wife as I had to put limits on who was coming with me.  Lastly I'm assuming there is an internal fire place since if there isn't that would be one of my first priorities.

Clothing
1.     Medium weight pants that zip off to become shorts
2.     Heavy weight hiking / camping pants
3.     2 pair jeans
4.     Shorts
5.     Smart socks
6.     Wool socks
7.     2 pair hiking boots
8.     Silk or under armor cold weather long underwear
9.     Hot weather base layer
10. Underwear for at least one week
11. Military ponchos (preferably with liners)
12. Boony hat for hot weather
13. Wool hat for cold weather
14. Insulated gloves
15. Heavy duty mittens
16. Muck lucks
17. Heavy winter outerwear
a.     Parka
b.     Snow pants
18. Balaclava
19. Work gloves
20. Sun glasses
21. Safety goggles (tinted)
22. Extra eye glasses
Shelter
1.     2, 8’x8’ tarps (handy for everything)
2.     As much paracord as we can carry
3.     Heavy mil garbage bags (handy for everything)
Food
1.     Protein mix
2.     Vitimins
3.     Pain killers
4.     Allergy pills
5.     Various medicines
6.     Birth control
a.     Sounds funny but if I’m thinking survival for both me and my wife this becomes important
7.     Fresh vegetables and foods to grow suitable for whatever area I’m in.
a.     Potatos
b.     Garlic
c.      Tomatos
d.     Carrots.
e.     Pumpkin seeds
f.      Watermelon seeds
g.     Mixed herbs
                                               i.     Parsley
                                              ii.     Oregano
                                            iii.     Chives
                                            iv.     Basil
                                              v.     Rosemary
h.     Rice / corn / any grain suitable
8.     Salt (25 lbs or more if it can be carried)
9.     Sugar (about the same amount)
10. Flower (as much as can be carried)
11. Largest bag of rice we can carry
12. Largest bag of dried beans we can carry
13. Preserved jerky / fish
14. Dried fruits and vegetables
15. One large pot
16. One small pot
17. One frying pan
18. One wok
19. 2 plates
20. 2 sporks
21. Our folding camping chopsticks (no lie)
22. 2 cups that fit onto our water bottles
23. 2 Nalgene water bottles
24. 2 Metal water bottles
25. 2 military canteens (with attached cups)
Hunting
1.     High power rifle
a.     .308, .30-06 or .270
b.     100 rounds
2.     .22 rifle
a.     1000 rounds
3.     12 gauge shotgun
a.     200 rounds various assortment
4.     Re-curve bow
a.     Preferably with arrows
b.     Broadheads
c.      Small game tips.
d.     Field tips
5.     High power sling shot
6.     Complete fishing kit
a.     already put together, set up for just about any fishing need
b.     add fishing traps (thanks dlyn)
7.     Snare wire
8.     Box snares
a.     If weight and price allow
9.     Leg snares
a.     If weight and price allow
Knives
1.     Ummm?  Lots
Tools
1.     Metal tripod (for hanging pot over fire)
2.     Compass
3.     Magnesium fire starter with striker
4.     Lighter (for back ups)
5.     Matches in waterproof container (again as back ups)
6.     Hammer
a.     Assorted nails
7.     Large ax
8.     file
9.     Sharpeners
a.     Corse
b.     Fine
c.      Triangle capable of doing serrated knives and fish hooks, etc
10. Multi tools
11. Shovel
12. Hand saw
13. Emergency wire saw (cut metal like butter)
14. Bicycle inner tubes
15. At least 2 large water jugs
16. As many 5 gallon buckets as we can carry
17. My U.V. water purifier (never hurts)
18. My water filter if possible
19. Solar battery charger
20. Rechargeable batteries
21. LED lantern if possible
22. Flashlight
a.     Any or all of the following
                                               i.     Maglight
                                              ii.     Surefire
                                            iii.     Headlamp
23. Washboard (keeping laundry clean will be an issue)
a.     Wash basin would be nice but too big to take
24. Solar shower
25. Sewing kit
26. I’d make a hobo stove but am not counting this as something I would take or buy as I would use scraps I find in the woods for this.
27. Napping kit for new arrow heads.
28. My mother’s first aid kit
a.     She’s a nurse and I bring her as the camp nurse when we go on survival trips.  Her first aid kit could handle almost what an Emergency Room could.  It’s in one medium/large duffle bag
29. Binoculars
Books
1.     Several of my survival books
a.     Wild edibles
b.     Wilderness medicine
c.      Etc.
2.     One book on meat/food preservation
3.     One book on natural preserving and tanning animal hides
4.     Paper and journals
5.     Writing utensils
Comfort
1.     2 pair sheets easier to wash then the blankets & useful for other things.
2.     2 wool blankets
3.     2 fleece blankets
4.     1 heavy winter sleeping bag
5.     1 light / medium weight sleeping bag
6.     1 two person cot (a good night sleep is invaluable)
7.     Real pillows (again that good night sleep)
8.     Hammock (both comfort and function)
a.     For sleeping
b.     Storage
c.      Hunting
d.     Fishing
e.     Etc
Mobility
1.     Snow shoes / cross country skis
2.     Canoe (if near by water is adaquite)
a.     Paddles obviously
b.     Life jackets
3.     My motorcycle (parked and hidden as near to my shelter as possible
4.     Good Jeep rubicon or land rover
a.     I’m considering this one as free since in an all ending situation I would take one from someone who had already died.
b.     Also parked and hidden but in a different location from the bike.
5.     Clearly our good hiking packs
6.     Climbing rope and gear

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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 11:35 AM ( #27 )
Add to the list, toothpaste, toothbrush, floss, soap and detergent. 
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:00 PM ( #28 )
Given the roof sealing issues involved with adding a chimney to an existing structure, ( if there isn't one) perhaps Dlyn's charcoal burners may be a good solution to the need for an inside fire. The traditional methods involved building a bonfire, and then smothering it with dirt to recover the charcoal, but there are plenty of methods posted on the net on how to do the smaller amounts one family would need in a drum. (of course, ventilation would still be needed, but you wouldn't have to deal with being smoked out).

I was banking on a lean-to on the outside wall to provide cover/shelter for the wood fireplace/stove, so the smoke could be blown away, rather than be trapped inside.
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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Saturday, January 02, 2010 9:12 AM ( #29 )
I assumed having to build a wood storage area.  I don't believe that would be too difficult as I've done it for smaller amounts while camping.  As for making a fireplace & chimney that would be difficult but such a priority if there isn't one.  After posting I started reading other people's lists (really wanted to try my list without being influenced first).  I like Dlyn's idea.  If you have some time to get this set up bringing in some flashing and piping for ventilation and a chimney wouldn't be that hard.  It would be awkwardly shaped but light.  The problem would be budget.  I'm trying to move the furnace from my kitchen to an attached shed and the materials needed are not cheap.  Does anyone have a trick for ventilation?
     When in Alaska I had to make a small wood stove to keep my "cabin" warm.  I used some existing pieces they had for a quick chimney and just went out a window then sealed around it.

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Re:What goes into your "wilderness lodge" - Sunday, January 03, 2010 6:27 PM ( #30 )
FYI, for anyone else who, like me, thought that Dlyn's Pyromid stove sounded damn good and want to get one, one of the first things you'll find is that they're discontinued at the moment, but if you do a search and send a bunch of messages there's a good chance you can track one down, I've got a new stove on the way to me at the moment, and if I can nail the guy down I'll be picking up a used oven for it as well.

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