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The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Friday, April 20, 2012 11:46 PM ( #1 )
]i want a Cold Steel version of it with the fewer "modern adaptation" of it possible. if we can avoid the kydex sheath it would be great


The V-42 Stiletto was a stiletto and fighting knife issued during World War II to the First Special Service Force (1st SSF, aka Devil's Brigade), a joint Canadian/American commando unit.





Based on the Fairbairn-Sykes commando knife designed by William E. Fairbairn and Eric A. Sykes, the Fighting Commando Knife, Type V-42 used a narrow-profile, double-edged stiletto blade made of high carbon steel.[1] The V-42 was primarily designed by officers of the FSSF, including its Commanding Officer, Lt. Colonel Robert T. Frederick, who desired a combat knife that could be used to silently eliminate enemy soldiers as well as perform the role of a close-quarters combat knife.[1][2] The blade's design has been attributed to Col. Fredericks, who had encountered the Fairbairn-Sykes commando knife while on duty in England.[1] While the V-42 had a double-edged blade like that of the Fairbairn-Sykes knife, it had a narrower stiletto blade profile designed to optimize penetration when used for thrusting, and the V-42 could easily penetrate a G.I. steel helmet and liner with a single thrust.[1] With its relatively thin, narrow blade, the V-42 was designed from the outset for use as a fighting knife, and was consequently prone to breakage when used for utility chores such as opening ration tins or ammunition crates. Unusual for military combat knives of the period, the V-42's twin edges were double hollow-ground for increased cutting performance.[1] The addition of the skull-crushing pommel was attributed to the input of Major Orval J. Baldwin, the FSSF Supply Officer.[1] The thumb groove on the V-42's ricasso was designed to promote a flat grip with the thumb over the crossguard, which positioned the double-edged blade horizontally. In this manner a Forceman could slash an opponent with either a forehand or backhand stroke, while ensuring that his blade would slip between the ribs when used in a thrust or stab.[1][2] V-42 Stiletto The V-42 was manufactured in the United States by Case.[3] After a series of leg injuries incurred during training, the original leather sheath was reinforced in later versions with a metal tip designed to prevent the needle-like tip from penetrating the sheath.[3][2] Since the force was originally trained for fighting in cold weather conditions, the sheath was designed long, so as to hang beneath the bottom of a G.I. parka
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Saturday, April 21, 2012 5:05 AM ( #2 )
Would be an awesome dagger. And a single-edged version would be nice as well.
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Saturday, April 21, 2012 10:15 AM ( #3 )
i doubt about the single edge, maybe a ti-lite profile with a sharpened false edge. but not single edge. 

something like that


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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Monday, April 23, 2012 8:50 PM ( #4 )
How fascinating! I was just thinking of this knife earlier tonight, and wondering if there were any modern renditions floating around. The VG-42 was a terrific improvement over the F-S dagger, with it's thin cross section and it's cylindrical steel hilt. The VG-42 seems much more robust for a stabber. I'd love it if CS made a modern rendition with a Kraton handle.
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:00 AM ( #5 )
apparently the modern replica are made of SK5. i don't see why cold steel would not make one in SK5 maybe even a VG1 too. 
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 10:29 AM ( #6 )
Erm?



 
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:50 PM ( #7 )
i'm not sure what you intend to mean with that. 
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:50 PM ( #8 )
i'm not sure what you intend to mean with that. 
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:30 PM ( #9 )
I heard you the first time. I heard you the first time. :)



What I mean is that Cold Steel already have a stiletto and a spike, not sure what else you want out of those old relics.
 
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:53 PM ( #10 )
well that clear. i want a quality replica of the V-42. and i never saw cold steel make more modern replica. 
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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:15 PM ( #11 )

Atlanta Cutlery has one in their catalog for $49.95.  I doubt it's of CS quality but it -looks- nice.  It's made of 1095 steel so maybe it's OK.  I would like for CS to make some nice military replicas.  




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How fascinating! I was just thinking of this knife earlier tonight, and wondering if there were any modern renditions floating around. The VG-42 was a terrific improvement over the F-S dagger, with it's thin cross section and it's cylindrical steel hilt. The VG-42 seems much more robust for a stabber. I'd love it if CS made a modern rendition with a Kraton handle.


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Re:The V-42: The devil brigade knife - Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:48 PM ( #12 )
i know about the hanwei and boker models. even as nice as they are, they aren't close to the quality of cold steel
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