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Re:Camping in upstate New York; what defensive weapons are allowed?
Friday, August 12, 2011 4:13 PM
My wife and I got back from upstate NY yesterday afternoon. Before we left, I called the NY state police and they told me that any long-gun would be fine to bring along. I brought a Mossberg 590 with a Butler Creek folding stock and kept it in a small nylon rifle case within a Baja waterproof bag on the bow of my kayak for most of the trip. I only took it out several times - when I ventured off into the woods for up to 1000m - and I never ran into anybody, so no problems. The 40+ rounds of slugs and buckshot did add some weight to my loadout though.
Incase anybody is wondering, the Adirondacks must be the most over-used outdoor area I've ever seen. We went to the most remote place I could find in the entire Adirondack Park and kayaked/portaged (5 times) for more than 3 miles beyond anywhere accessible by motorboat or car, and there were groups canoeing, kayaking and camping on every single pond and lake we went to. There was no remoteness or seclusion whatsoever. It was fortunate that we had arrived in the Adirondacks on Sunday evening, because the only tackle shop within 50 miles was closed and I was unable to waste $35 on a 7-day non-resident fishing license (which would have been a waste because the largest fish we saw on our entire trip were 4" bluegills and everybody we talked to who had been fishing had caught nothing). After deciding to head home early, we kayaked back to our vehicle and drove for several hours through much of the park. All of the interesting features such as waterfalls, caves, natural towers and bridges, etc required a fee to see, and they were all closed for the day. We were unable to find any free campsites anywhere; each state park was packed with RV's and wanted $20 per night to camp in a 20'-wide campsite between them, and almost every motel, hotel and lodge was full. We kept driving until we eventually exited the park, and we continued driving until we got to Utica. There was a Red Roof Inn, a Super 8 Motel, a Scottish Inn and a Budget Hotel. The Red Roof Inn and Budget Hotel were completely full, and the Super 8 Motel and Scottish Inn each had one room left. The Super 8 wanted an un-super $90 for one night, so we took the last room at the Scottish Inn for $65 and headed home the next day. Before we got back onto the highway, we had to stop at a grocery store to buy a gallon of water to fill our Nalgene bottles with because the water at the hotel was brown (including the water they had been using to make coffee at the breakfast bar - which consisted of coffee, bread, jelly packets, and two old toasters).
To end on a positive note, during the kayaking portion of our trip, I put my Trail Hawk, Recon Scout, X2 Voyager and Sawvivor to good use, and my wife got some use out of her Gerber saw and Benchmade Nimravus. We got to our third campsite at night during a rain storm, and I used the Recon Scout to baton a bunch of soggy birch to get to the dry centers and then make a bunch of paper-thin shavings, and we got a fire going. Also, once we crossed back over to Pennsylvania on the way home, we saw a Gander Mountain from the highway and stopped to check out a variety of hiking gear, kayak accessories and firearms. I bought some pretty cool coyote brown "S-biners" made by Niteize and I'd definitely recommend them for securing any sort of accessories about your person. I put one on my keys, my cell phone and my wallet.
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